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Sylwia Wysocka, PAP [Pools Persagentschap]

"Holy Father, you said: we can never justify violence. Everything that is happening in Ukraine now is pure violence, death, total destruction by Russia. We in Poland have the war so close to our doorstep, with two million refugees. I would like to ask, if you think there is a red line beyond which you should not say: we are open to dialogue with Moscow. Because so many people have a hard time understanding this openness. And I would also like to ask, if the next trip will be to Kyiv."

I will answer that... 

but I would prefer that the questions about the trip be asked first...

I think, it is always difficult... 

to understand the dialogue with the states that started a war, and it seems that the first step was from there, from that side. It is difficult. But we must not discard it, we must extend the opportunity for dialogue to everyone, to everyone! 

Because there is always the possibility that in dialogue we can change things, and also offer another point of view, another point of consideration. I don't exclude dialogue with any power, whether it's at war, whether it's the aggressor... sometimes dialogue has to be done in this manner, but it has to be done. 

It "stinks", but it has to be done. Always one step ahead, an outstretched hand, always! Because otherwise we close off the only reasonable door to peace. Sometimes some do not accept dialogue: too bad! But dialogue must always be done, at least offered, and this is good for those who offer it, it helps them to breathe.

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